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CONVERSATION: POETRY AN ECSTASY
Coleman Barks & Robert Bly, Sunday, September 22, 9:30 AM

Barks: "Rumi said that form is a state of ecstasy. [that includes all poetry!]"

Barks: poetic ecstasy is “full of passionate attention, relishing of every moment in the choice of words, diction.”

Barks: “Ecstasy is close to gibberish.” He cited some of G. Hopkins poems as examples.

Bly: Kohat (sp?), a more recent German psychologist, talks about “grandiosity” as a natural form. We have “grandiosity at birth,” and then it is “disciplined away.” Hopkins is someone who has broken out of this.

Bly: “When you meet someone who makes you feel small, get another friend.”

Bly: "You felt ecstasy in simple things like snow before you went to school."

Bly: Robert Moore: "grandiosity is a God implant."

Bly: "There is a dark side of grandiosity, especially in politics, ... for example, in Hitler."

Bly: "There is an ecstatic moment when seeing the beloved."

Barks: Rumi said “I see my beauty in you.”

Bly: Hafez (sp?), a “brother” to Rumi, said in a poem “no creature has been comfortable beneath this turquoise dome…. [I am] left with only wind in my hands.”

Barks: "...grandiosity is tempered by humility, discipline."

Bly: Old Lutheran habit, "to expunge grandiosity and replace it with guilt…" to get “peace in the house.”

Bly: “Most religions use suppression of grandiosity to see the face of God.”

Bly: "If you are grandiose, you are not a good father—children ground you."

Bly: "Ecstasy and the apocalyptic are both ecstatic views."... "The apocalyptic is the view of destruction."

Barks: "humility is an aspect of ecstasy"